Looks nice....where do you buy those cabients and DIN rail terminals? Is it UL listed for this use or did you have to cut out the holes in it? Any reason you didn't use Lutron's Homeworks panels and their DIN rail dimming modules?
The problem I see is dimmers generate heat and if one of those million dollar houses (whose owners have REALLLLLY good lawyers) burns down, it would be unpleasant. Good to know these panels exist though for non-dimming modules.
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- Nicer looking keypads- Fully integrated wireless components. Anything you can do from a wiredcomponent, you can do from a wireless one. No system limits.- All devices sit on a two conductor bus (including controllers, centralizeddimmers, local dimmers, RS-232 ports, etc)- Dimmer modules and controller just plug into enclosure. No wire toconnect/disconnect.- More new products being introduced each year (eg light sensor)- Full control over LEDs on each button (ie they can show the status ofgarage doors- Full programming software (if/then/else statements, loops, etc).Downloadable from Vantage's website.- New features constantly being added to programming software.I recommend centralized dimming over local dimming for a few reasons (thoughVantage supports both):- Keypads won't get warm at all- Larger higher quality components in the central dimmer- Easier wiring- No 120V and low voltage in the same box so the inspector has no excuse tocomplain- Multiple loads in a single room only require a single gang keypad, ratherthan 1 gang per loadDisclaimer: I am a Vantage dealer, but not a Lutron dealer, so I may bebiased :)Allan.Intelligent Interiors Installation, Sales, Service, Parts for Crestron, Vantage, Elan, Sonance,Niles, Atlantic Technology, HAI, OnQ, and many others"Mike" wrote in messagenews:wp1r9.44319$gr6.44721@rwcrnsc53...
A few specific comments follow:Allan, nice plug for Vantage, you listed many of the reasons that had me leaning towardsVantage in the first place.Ken, I have been struggling with a few assorted closet lights, etc. and wondering if it isworth it to create separate control circuits and associated home runs for suchunimportant, individual lights. I imagine I could just wire all these extraneousunimportant lights into one breaker with regular old-fasioned wall switches (or dooractuated switches) to conserve dimming/switching modules and reduce the number of homeruns but then I wouldn't have whole house lighting control. I wonder if there are anysolutions that fall in-between the old fasioned way and complete control? As it is I'mleaning towards just creating a separate control circuit for each of these closet lightsand eating the expense.Ryan, I'm not completely familiar with either Lutron or Vantage but I believe you aremisleading on a couple of points.
- Nicer Looking keypadsAs someone mentioned, it is personally preference. We have a newer keypad(introduced within the last 2 years called seeTouch). Its button design andbacklit engraving allows you to see the buttons as well as the text on themday or night at various viewing angles.-Fully integrated wireless componentsIf you haven't heard yet, we launched a major addition to the HomeWorksline. We added the niceties of the RF products that we have for RadioRA tothe HomeWorks family. HomeWorks now has RF keypads, both in wall and tabletop. We have a Car Visor Control that you can activate lights from yourcar. We also have a lamp dimmer control that gives you dimming at the lampor from a keypad.-All devices sit on the same 2 conductor bus.We have multiple busses for one main reason - system response time. Witheach bus having its own processor we can keep resources spread evenly acrosseach bus. This greatly increases system response.- More new products being introduced each year.I'm not sure how you figured this one out. We just introduced over a dozennew products just for HomeWorks Interactive last month-Full control over LED statusWe have this feature as well. I can have a button on a keypad that turns mykitchen light on, but the LED follows the status of my Garage door.-Full programming software.Not sure what this means, but we have a design and programming tool thatruns on a PC that is used to program the hardware- New features constantly being added to the softwareI worked on developing the software tool for 4 years. We probably have 4 to8 releases of the software each year. Most of the releases are due to thefact that we are constantly getting feedback from our customers asking fornew features.On the topic of central dimming versus local dimming... each one has itsadvantagesCentral dimming------------------ Minimizes wall clutter- Maximum flexibility at wall stations- You typically get higher wattage dimmers from modules than in-wallversionsLocal Dimming----------------- There is a familiar looking device on a wall. This is great if you haveguests over frequently. Most people who having been around keypads can beintimidated by them... a dimmer is a dimmer. After you use it once, youknow exactly how it operates.- Failsafe Operation... if the system stops responding, a local dimmer willcontinue to operate the way a dimmer should- Pre-wire capability. You can prewire for local dimmers... not formodules. If you put some standard toggle switches in, run the lowvoltage... you can always go back and put the dimmer in later.Someone else mentioned it, but its true, Lutron has been in the lightingcontrol business for over 40 years. The owner of our company invented thesolid-state dimmer.I know this was a long post, but I figured since Vantage got a good plug, weshould too.If you have any questions, feel free to email me personally, or post amessage here.Thanks,Charlie Derk
The new Lutron Connect packages include a 1-link processor and the Lutron Connect Bridge. These packages reduce the starting price of a HomeWorks QS system and bring the Lutron Connect app with remote access and expanded cloud based integration to every project. Additionally, HomeWorks QS integrators can now utilize the new DIN power panels and modules to provide flexible dimming and switching solutions on the QS link. DIN power modules (DPMs) are specifically designed for the best LED dimming performance available. 2ff7e9595c
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